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. >> settling a debt ceiling issue is in the interest of the president and of our country. you have today fitch came out and threatened to decrease the credit rating and they are doing it in a way that areckless because you have outside observers looking at us and i want to highlight a point you made earlier which is the fact that all spending bills are in the constitution. we are looking at a credit card bill that this country has to pay that was in cured by congress by authorizing this spending. >> but peter, you are going to get a budget out of that house. they are late, but i believe they will. it is the senate that hasn't delivered a budge it in years. this is not just about the here and now. this is forward spending. forward spending needs a road map and the taxpayers have a right to know. >> yeah, i think it is pretty rich to call republican ares reckless spepder e spenders her. when president obama was asked to vote on a hike in 2006, the fact that we are raising the debt limit is a result of reckless fiscal policies and that is what president obama says. >> but didn't it explode under
of trying to solve the issues with the debt ceiling that are somewhat disturbing to the markets, the eventual solutions could be every bit as disturbing. >> and even bruce mccain with the uncertainties crowneding the economy and what's going on in washington, we've had big inflows into the market and to mutual funds and other things, and that's significant for you, isn't it? >> absolutely. we've seen a willingness to take more risk. i think the downside is that we're also seeing a bit of complacency come into the market, and with uncertainties, especially the fiscal cliff the sequel ahead of us, we think there's opportunities for some disruption of that positive feel-good feeling we're seeing in the market right now. >> all right. how do you want to allocate capital then, bruce? how are you investing in this environment? >> we think it's important not to be taking too little risk, so certainly making sure that you have adequate exposure, especially to things like the emerging markets where the fundamentals of growth are a lot better than they are in the united states is clearly
the way. we've got a debt ceiling issue that the president's going to have to deal with. there are a lot of other issues the president's going to have to deal with, immigration reform. i think the president's going to have to spend time on this whether he wants to or not. >> connie mack, nice to see you. >> nice to see you. >> please tell your lovely wife we're sorry she lost all her luggage and was stuck at the airport. >> love you, honey. >> we'll get back to john berman with a look at some of the other stories ahead this morning. >>> we'll be talking about the golden globes. ben affleck didn't get nominated for an oscar, but his surprise win at the globes may be vindication. we'll have that, the other surprises, and the big snubs in a live report. >>> he's known for his role on "breaking bad," but actor steven michael casada has a new role to play, local school board member. you should know that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others
are some of the top republicans responding to president obama on this debt ceiling issue? >> reporter: well, jon, republicans are clearly uncomfortable with prominent democrats already talking about a tax increase when you consider the fiscal cliff deal raised taxes and every worker with a payroll tax hiring expiring and raised taxes on upper income americans even further, check your pay stub. a leading republican says responding to the president what's critical is getting spending under control. >> it's a compelling message saying we ned to pay the bills we've racked up. of it messes the whole point again. think of it in terms of a credit card. in you have a son or daughter who exceeds the limit, the first thing you do is rip up the card, the second thing you do is you say you need to change your spending habits. >> reporter: they say we need to a just what bills we are paying and how they are paying. jon: the issue of depending on disaster relief could provide tkraeupl drama there on capitol hill. >> reporter: speaker john boehner promised that the house would take up sandy relief bills
it a whole lot -- we spend a whole lot more money than we take in, the debt ceiling become as real issue pd at government has to stop spending about $100 billion a month. that means the government will have to lay off people and that will mean more unemployment and more pain for people. it also means the government won't be able to pay all 6 it bills and it may stop sending money to the businesses in the united states. some of whom could go bankruptcy because of it. >> critics have said you can list out all of the things that won't get paid respect but in the end it has a massive ripple effect. and yet the house speaker said yesterday the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. so i think a lot of people are tormented over this. they agree with both sides. yes, we can't spend, no, we can't default, but who does big business see this? >> big business is pretty clear. i've spoken to a lot of ceos. they don't want to have the debt ceiling be the problem. they think that would be very bad
get the u.s. government past the immediate stumbling block of the failure to raise the debt ceiling. that's a legal matter. as a political matter, i think it's basically a nonstarter because it seems comical and it seems ridiculous. >> bruce, you suggest an alternate strategy which is one bill clinton has talked about and colombia law professors do. which is the president should essentially say, i have the implicit authority to raise the debt ceiling without congress, correct? >> that's right. of course, i'm not a legal scholar, but i do oppose the existence of the debt limit. i even testified before the senate finance committee that we should get rid of it. i think it's a dreadful left over from ancient history that simply creates opportunities for hostage taking by congress, such as the one we're facing right now and our foreign policy, we don't negotiate with hostage takers for a very good reason and i think that we need to get rid of this debt limit. but i'm perfectly willing to go along with the trillion dollar coin, if that's what's necessary to prevent this hostage from being
have this fight over the debt ceiling, but it is about bigger issues. the debt ceiling has nothing to do with immigration reform, nothing to do with the proposals on gun control, nothing to do with anything else the president might want to do in his second term, but guess what, it does affect the climate in washington. and the fact that he does not have a more trusting, even a private back channel relationship with the key republican leaders is one of the -- one of the reasons and they had responsibility too, i'm not putting it all on the president it a washington crisis if you will, a trust deficit. it is one of the reasons -- >> mitch mcconnell talking. >> so you have to have the vice president go to the senate republican leader, two guys -- they're not best of friends. trust me. i know them both. they're not best of friends. they do trust each other. mitch mcconnell knows if joe biden gives him his word, it is good. we need more of that in washington, not less. >> let me ask you, since i have you, something else the president mentioned, asked, of course, about gun violence in th
if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling. president obama says he will not negotiate this issue with congress but republicans want any increase in the debt ceiling to be tied to spending cuts. >>> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. and so -- there is a very simple solution to this. >> now, in a statement, john boehner indicated the republican party is prepared for a fight. he said "the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are rule but so are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." >>> state lawmakers in sacramento are closely watching this debate in washington. the concern is that if congress doesn't act on the debt ceiling, the national economy could dip and that would likely have a negative effect on california's budget numbers. push >> the biggest risk to our forecast or the analysts' forecasts could come next month and that's from washington, d.c. >> the 2013 budget release by governor brown showed a surplus for the first time in many years and that was thanks to new tax revenue
that this would be the big fight. that the fiscal cliff would not be the real issue. the debt ceiling would be. you see this as taking us close to the brink, again. could it take us over the brink? >> potentially. keep in mind that we have two other -- in addition to the debt limit. we have, in effect, two other fiscal cliffs approaching. one is the appropriations bills for 2013, which have not yet been finished and we'll have a government shut down unless they have, unless those bills are enacted and the second is the $1.2 trillion sequester, which triggered the fiscal cliff, but was only delayed by two months and that runs out, as well. so, we have the debt limit, the sequester and the appropriations all essentially coming due at more or less the same date. some time next month. my assumption is, i guess everybody else's is, these are somehow whether they're rolled into together into one massive punt the ball down the road bill. >> jeff, if any of this does end up in the supreme court, you know, let's say the administration does some kind of legal maneuver, what's the history of this? when t
is up against republicans, he trying to work on the debt ceiling. you have the whole issue of whether or not the debt ceiling is going to be raised, whether or not that is going to be held hostage to actually paying the bills the government has to pay. you also talk about immigration reform. where does this fit in in terms of the president's priorities, do you think? >> well, from where i sat today, obviously it seems to be a very high priority for the president of the united states. i'll let the white house and the administration answer how they're going to deal with congress. that's their task, not mine. but i'm confident that the president, the vice president and the entire administration is going to do everything they can to get the package they proposed today through congress. and, you know, when you heard the president say, i think it's essential, american citizens, the american people have to demand this. we have to act. when you have 1,000 people nearly killed in last 30 days at the hands of gun, when you have mass tragedies like happened in connecticut, aurora, colorado, oreg
showed lingering concern over remaining major fiscal issues like the debt ceiling is weighing on the mind of consumers. that is the latest from the fox business network, giving you the power to prosper ashley: research in motion looking to win big with the release of its new blackberry 10. the smart phone being unveiled later this month. and there is news out today that the tech company's stock is getting an upgrade. shibani joshi has details on the rim buzz. shibani. >> the buzz keeps buzzing on this one, you can't really escape it. jeffries today upgrading the stock saying they believe the e-mail and bbm messenger service will be licensed to the iphone as well as to android phones that is licensing revenues for research in motion which it needs. also getting some apps out there and early traction with enterprise customers signing onto this. that is news lifting it higher today, all around up 98%, almost doubled in the last three months. ashley: so are the gains real? this of course has been a favorite of. >> this is interesting. we're starting to uncover this a little bit. short interes
to increase the debt ceiling are real but so too are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved. the spending and debt issues took most of the president's attention today, but he also turned to the issue of gun violence. after the shootings at an elementary school in newtown connecticut, he appointed vice president biden to come up with recommendations for action. the vice president met with lawmakers today and with groups on both sides of the issue last week. plans to submit proposals by tomorrow. president obama would not discuss specifics today. instead he said this. >> i'm confident that there are some steps that we can take that don't require legislation and that are within my authority as president. and where you get a step that has the opportunity to reduce the possibility of gun violence, then i want to go ahead and take it. >> brown: he conceded that a fight in congress is likely but he hopes that some compromise is is possible. >> the issue here is not whether or not we believe in the second amendment. the issue is are there some sensible steps that we can t
as three big issues: the government funding issue. that runs dry at the end of march. the debt ceiling. and these automatic spending cuts that take hold at the beginning of march. they want to use these opportunities. they don't think it's so bad to shut down the government or to default on the debt. they are even skeptical of the administration's estimates of when that will happen. so they see themselves really having very little leverage besides doing something which a lot of americans would consider extreme which is defaulting on the debt or shutting down the government. now i think it's virtually impossible that speaker john boehner will raise the debt ceiling without commensurate spending cuts. he's way too far out on a limb on that prospect. so it's going to be one of these huge battles its going to be something where one side has to blink first or the issues have to kind of meld together in a way that speaker boehner or president obama has a fig leaf in order to get this done. >> woodruff: jakewhat about the president's argument today? he said this several times. he said this is
on this issue. >> as you well know, sir, finding votes for the debt ceiling can sometimes be complicated, you yourself as a member of the senate voted against the debt ceiling increase, and in previous aspects of american history, president reagan in 1985, president george herbert walker bush, and president clinton, deals contingent upon raising the debt ceiling and you yourself, related to debt or budget related maneuvers. and what many people are curious about the new adamant desire on your part not to negotiate that seems to conflict with the entire hire in the modern era of the presidents and the debt ceiling and your own debt ceiling and doesn't it suggest we're going into a default situation because no one is talking to each other about this. >> no, major, i think if you look at the history. getting votes for the debt ceiling is difficult and votes in in town are difficult. i went through this last year. what is different we never saw a situation like we saw last year in which certain groups in congress took such an absolutist position that we came within a few days of defaulting. >> lo
. >> katherine reporting for us tonight. the drama in waington on a different issue. the nation's debt. we hit the ceiling and the government is using accounting tricks to pay the bills and top republican leaderships say they may vote in favor of a three month extension without requirements to cut government spending that. is according to eric cantor who said the vote could happen next week. it would mark a hudge about face for congressional republicans who said our government is addicted to spending . we turn to our new polling and show you most americans believe we have a spending problem. a whopping 83 percent said that government spending is out of control. compared to 62 percent in 2009 . majority of you scene percent favor raising the debt ceiling but the increase must be tied to major spending cuts. only 23 percent think it should be raised with no strings attached. that is what the republicans are considering. stay withs numbers just a moment now. we want to show you president obama will begin the second term with much less support than he had four years ago. the president's approval r
. thank you. jon: when republicans return to capitol hill next week they will folk on issues like the debt ceiling and upcoming budget battles. the president's sweeping effort to control guns including 23 executive actions could make it harder than ever to reach any kind of bipartisan agreement. senator rand paul says he will fight the president's executive orders. he's accusing the president of acting more like a king. >> our founding fathers were very concerned about having a separation of powers. they didn't want to let the president become a king. and i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex sort of developing. i'm very concerned about this president garnering so much pow irand arrogance that he thinks he can 0 do whatever he wants. jon: senator ted cruz of texas seems to agree saying the president is high on power. >> this is the president who has drunk the kool-aid. he is feeling right now high on his own power and he is pushing on every front, on guns, i think it's really sad to see the president of the united states exploiting the murder of children, and using it
a new plan to eliminate the debt ceiling, claiming the gop is exploiting the issue for political gain. doug mckelway is live in washington with more on the democratic plan and the road ahead. hi, doug. >> reporter: hi, jenna. this democratic plan in a nutshell would basically do away with the statute that calls for the debt ceiling in the first place, allowing spending in effect to go up and up and up without the artificial cap that the debt ceiling is indeed. democrats are explaining this in a press conference right now as we speak, so we'll be learning a lot more about it as the day progresses. republicans obviously deeply opposed to this thing, fearful that democrats will indeed use it to allow spending to go up and up. here is senator john barrasso speaking on fox news this morning. >> we have a spending problem in this country. people all across the country know it. they know it in wyoming. families have to balance their budget every year. many states do. we do in wyoming. it is time for the senate and the house and the president to get serious about limiting our spending and spe
says he's willing to debate spending cuts, but that the debt ceiling should not be a link to a budget battle. >> verizon says it has made significant progress in dealing with issues stemming from last summer's deadly derecho. this comes after the virginia state corporation commission said 911 outages were caused by the company's failure to perform necessary maintenance. the panel also said verizon failed to monitor and respond to the outages which disrupted 911 service to nearly 2 million people in northern virginia. what a mess that was. nice to sea there getting on top of it. >> for the next big snowstorm. >> we did not need to worry about that so much yesterday. >> we were not calling to rub it in. >> i would rather take about the sunny skies you are predicting now. >> it was not a major storm. everything stays to our south and east. you have to be prepared this time of year for anything. here's a look at the satellite and radar picture. look at that swirl on the bottom of the animation. that shows the tract of the low. this was in its early stages. look at how it pulled off to the
the brink about the debt ceiling. they do want to force the issue about how can they get this president to agree to additional spending cuts? the debt ceiling is a dangerous game. i think they recognize that politically. they'll push -- the question is how -- how do they push on the debt ceiling? do they say, look, we'll give you a short-term extension of the debt ceiling for a certain amount of spending cuts, or we'll give you a long-term extension like you want for even more spending cuts. can they force entitlement reform around medicare, for instance, even some of the -- in their view -- more limited things that the president wants to do around means testing and age and indexing to try to attach that to a debt-limit deal. do they move beyond the debt limit, try to get to the continuing resolutions and those kinds of things? they recognize that this is the only area of leverage that they have, but they want to be careful about it. >> so chuck todd, how does the white house deal with that supposed leverage? >> well, first i think the republicans are hoping that they have a manti te'o
and deposit it to the federal reserve to step aside of a fight with the debt ceiling and and after the treasury department issued a statement saying that quote, neither the treasury department nor the federal reserve believes the law can or should be used to facilitate the production of platinum coins to avoid the increase in the debt limit. and finally a quick personal update, i'll be in baltimore on wednesday to talk about my book "twilight of the elites." a chapter about the steroids era in baseball and i'll be at pratt library. >>> and you should know aaron schwartz has died of suicide at age 26. his body was found in his apartment on friday. aaron was one of those naturally brilliant precocious hackers who at the age of 14 codeveloped the syndication of rss web protocol and is a key component of the we be's infrastructure. he founded a company to merge with a user generated social site which is one of the most highly trafficked. reviewed doz. he wrote beautifully and prolifically. he worked with progressive change committee and founded demand progress to keep the internet open
brought up the emancipation proclamation and he compared the debt ceiling to that. are you considering a plan-b? and if not, why not? >> well, chuck, the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation and -- there is a very simple solution to this. congress authorizes us to pay our bills. the house and the senate want to give mean the authority so they don't have to take these tough votes, if they want to put the responsibility on me to raise the debt ceil, i'm happy to take it. mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate, had a proposal like that hast year, but in they want to keep -- keep this responsibility -- there are no magickic interests here. there are no loopholes. there are no, you know, easy outs. this is a matter of congress, authorizes spending. they order me to spend -- you need to send out social security checks. you need to make sure that you are paying to care for our veterans. they lay all of this out for me. and because they have the spending power so i'm required to go ahead and pay these bills. >> separately, they also h
for future, because they're going to have a hard time with the debt ceiling. that 27 could go to 12. >> there is usually somewhere lower to go. thank you very much, john avalon. >>> all right, well "outfront" next, we are learning new details about the american hostages in algeria. the family of one hostage spoke with cnn's david mattingly today. he's been chasing that down and he is going to be "outfront" in a moment. and more trouble for boeing. the electric problem of the dreamliner leading more countries to ground planes from america's biggest company. about health care...se i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three stra
raising the debt ceiling without cutting spending at the same time. boehner calls the debt an anchor on our economy. here's the leading senate republican, making his point. >> it's sort of like you have a kid who exceeds the credit card limit. you tear up the credit card, but you look at the spending. the republicans are willing to pay for past bills. these are about future bills. the president is missing the point that we are on an unsustainable path. >> reporter: portman acknowledges the need to raise the debt ceiling, but he supports the context of getting a handle on the spenning. >> shepard: this is disaster relief for victims of super storm sand gee right. we have had plenty of lawmakers saying we need to get a handle on government spending, but not when people are waiting for major disaster relief money. a key new jersey democrat is saying people from new york, new jersey and connecticut pay their fair share. three state, 16% of the taxes. you ask the question: who suffered because of super storm sandy? certainly, our neighbors in new york and new jersey and connecticut suffe
to raise the debt ceiling, right? president obama warned he will not enter into another game of brinkmanship as he referred to it over the debt sealing with republicans. >> the issue here is whether or not america pays its bills. we are not a deadbeat nation. if congressional republicans refuse to pay america's bills on time, social security checks and veterans benefits will be delayed. investors around the world will ask if the united states of america is in fact a safe bet. the full faith and credit of the united states of america is not a bargaining chip. martha: a lot of talk about the president's demeanor at that news conference yesterday. we'll get into that a little bit more coming up but for now does this really come down to an issue of raising the spending limit or defaulting on our credibility as the president has talked about. let's bring in stuart varney, host of "varney & company" on fox business network. so, stuart, you feel the way he is framing this is incorrect? >> yes. we're not going to default, period. we are not going to default. the default means that yo
saw the debt ceiling. so if that were to get into any kind of a logjam, not getting results, there can be some amount of sentiment that can impact us. and impact the customers and, therefore, to us. similarly in india, you look, the budget is going to come up in february. worry seeing further moderation in interest rates. but we still do not know, because quarter four tends to be a very good quarter. we have concern because we have very good revenue comes from india gee of fee. but some of those moves that will happen by the government and therefore the decision for investment and therefore there is a little bit of uncertainty. that is a big reason why we have given a guidance of .5% to 3% in large range. >> suresh -- >> based on the deal plan that we have, we feel that -- what? >> so just to be clear, you're basically saying just so people know what we're talking about, the guide kwans for the current quarter was between 1.2% and 3.5%. you came in at 2.4% revenue growth. your guidance for the next period is 0.5% to 3%. that was half a percent lower than the market was expecting. but y
macgs? >> this is an important issue. we do have things to worry about like unemployment and debt ceiling, but this is big. basically what was happening it was on the menu. it said champagne and champagne technically comes from a part of france. >> gregg: a region of france. >> right and the lobbyists went crazy over this. u.s. law says as long as you show the origin of the grapes it's already but they put california on the right side and on the left side -- >> only the french would get upset about that. >> gregg: the problem is there is too many lobbyists in washington. we put on green room on this. it's astonishing. there are 12,051 lobbyists that are actively lobbying. >> $3.3 billion in one year. >> gregg: i didn't do that. if you do the math, 22 lobbyists for every single member of congress? >> yes. >> gregg: there 22 to one in lobbyists. >> there are a lot of lobbyists. >> gregg: there is a lot of influence peddling going on in washington, d.c. >> to me this champagne issue popped my cork. >> gregg: they ought to switch to martinis? >> i think they would all be happier, cham
powers. charles krauthammer. okay, charles, start with the debt ceiling talk. what you heard from the president. >> the tone was remarkable. he talk about the republicans being suspicious of the social security and medicare by the oldest saw that you could hear. then he added making sure empovrished children get food. that's over the top. he said i love to hang out with a congressional picnic at these people who want to starve america's chirp. interesting ini havation. then he went over and over on the debt ceiling and he must have gone through the same idea 15 times. saying this is about honoring the obligation and paying the bills we have already incured. he raised the debt ceiling on how to depend on the ongoing financial assistance from the foreign country to finance the reckless, fiscal pollty. the point of raising the debt ceiling is to allow to us borrow. he talked about the debt ceiling a dozen times. not once did he use the word "borrow." that means we are going to continue to borrow for every dollar the government spend, only 60 cents of it come from taxes. the rest, 40%
. the white house held a firm line on saying we're not going to negotiate at all on this debt ceiling, and it worked. do you think this is a lesson that may carry for four years, when they see themselves posturing this way rather than what they have done on other issues? do you think this might be contagious within the white house? >> remember bill clinton and what the definition of is, is. with barack obama it's sort of what the definition of negotiation is. they will deal with the debt ceiling, and that's when you will have very active negotiations over the budget. what the house has effectively done is put this on a similar path, a similar timetable as these other negotiations and the president may be able to say look, the debt ceiling is going to have to be raised regardless but house members can say well that's fine, but this is what we're demanding in terms of cuts. so maybe they are not linked except for the calendar, but at least in the minds of the republicans they certainly are linked. >> michael: yeah, i couldn't agree with that more. and that's a
security, or the military or benefits. and not because of self-imposed crisis on a debt ceiling but we will be out of money. that is what the republicans are trying to avert. the president is playing this likebe a demagogue notto pretend we don't have a debt issue. we do. that is hanging above us and what will destroy the credit rating in the end. not a crisis we create and then get around as we have in the past. but a real one of a country that cannot pay its debt anymore. which is where we are headed. >> bret: next up is the u.s. getting involved in a another war on terror in mali? b or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye h
economy hostage. if the house can pass a clean debt ceiling increase and meeting the existing obligations we will be happy to consider it. here we are as i said three days before inauguration and it looks like another fight that the republicans are not prepared to it seems to follow through on despite the threats. >> zachary and i were having a conversation in the green room and i said i don't understand the meaning of a second inauguration for the president. i get it now. the reason we need another inauguration is apparently one party doesn't understand we had an election in november and they lost. which means that you move on and you let the president be the president of the united states. these guys still want to fight the old battles of 2012. >> but they're giving this extension now. >> a three-month extension. the white house should tell them to go shove it. you can't run a government three months at a time. you have to have a long-term planning. bad for the markets. bad for the country. bad for the economy. let's make clear, definitive decisions. you lost. let's come together and co
not support raising the debt ceiling without reducing government spending at the same time. the consequences of failing to increase the debt ceiling are real, but so, too, are the consequences of allowing our spending problem to go unresolved." joining us is amy kremer, chairwoman of the tea party express. thanks for coming in this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> safe bet you're against raising the debt ceiling without spending cuts. >> the problem is the spending cuts never come. the republicans find themselves in the situation all the time t happened with reagan and bush 41 and with the sequester, it's been put off for two months, the spending cuts never come and we cannot continue down this path with over $16 trillion in debt, and a deficit of $1.4 trillion to $1.6 trillion per year. we're spending $1.6 million per year than we're bringing in. >> you've accused the president of using scare tactics. what do you mean by that? do you think he's lying about what could happen? >> the thing is, you know what, first of all it's not congress that determines if we default. it's the treasury s
and the fiscal cliff as well, they don't rank this as their top issue. clearly it's one we'll address in the congress and we're open to the discussion. >> can i ask you a question about how the gun control and debt ceiling debate go out? john boehner promised he will not bring a bill to the floor that does not have a majority of support of republicans. >> i'm not aware of that per se, i would refer you to his office. >> congressman, thank you. >> you're welcome. >>> still ahead, coca-cola says they are trying to fight obesity with a new ad they've released. is it thinking ahead about their own industry? a panel will talk about that straight ahead. you're watching "starting point," back in a moment. with the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. [ both ] 2% back on groceries. [ all ] 3% on gas. no hoops to jump through. i earn more cash back on the things i buy the most. [ woman ] it's as easy as... one! -two. -[ all ] three! [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. apply online or at a bank of america near you. i had[ d
the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. the moment the american citizen figures out they may not go out, the game is over. tenfold. because believe me, though congress can stand up to the senior lobby. so that is not a legiti
attached to the debt ceiling. this of course does follow that bruising battle the year before last, where he did negotiate on the issue, and the u.s. nearly went to the brink of default. he said that congress has to pay the bills that it's already racked up. >> you don't go out to dinner and then, you know, eat all you want and then leave without paying the check. and if you do, you're breaking the law. and congress should think about it the same way that the american people do. you don't -- now, if congress want, to have a debate about maybe we shouldn't go out to dinner next time, maybe we should go to a more modest restaurant, that's fine. that's the debate that we should have. >> reporter: in this press conference that was called last minute in the east room, president obama said he will negotiate a deal on deficit reduction but not, as he put it, quote, with a gun to the head of the american people. as you know, joe, republicans are saying they're not going to increase the debt ceiling unless they get spending cuts in return. so, it really throws into question, as president obama obv
restraints, specifically entitlements. that is where the big enchilada is an issue that has not been taken up yet. how do we get to that? there are three pressure points. you have the sequestered, the debt ceiling, and you have the continuing resolution. the sequestered and debt ceiling fall on top of each other towards the end of february. these to say and republican leadership and the senate, which is served in for 12 years, you never take a hostage you cannot shoot. the problem with the house was they took hostage the cannot shoot when they took the fiscal cliff. if the republican members of congress take the debt ceiling as a hostage, it is a hostage you cannot shoot. as a very practical matter, if we go over the debt ceiling, we do not increase the debt ceiling, republicans will not win the debate. they will argue they are not increasing it because they do not want to control spending but they will not win the debate. what will happen is the white house will pay with cash flow of the interest on the debt. the debt will not be called. what they might not pay our social security checks. th
ahead of debt ceiling conversations, days after fiscal quick negotiations -- days after fiscal cliff negotiations. was that deal good for poor people? >> for 30 years, we have not addressed this issue, except for the wonderful work that you and cornel are doing in these wonderful people on the panel. politics has neglected the poor. one could say that there was a war on the poor rather than a war on poverty for much of this period. the united states has by far the most poverty of any of the high- income countries as a share of the population. we have the highest in quality. we have the most entrenched underclass. we have had the biggest increases of any quality by far, and we've had the least political response of any high- income countries, so we are standing out on our own. this has been a 30-year trend of soaring in comes at the top, stagnation in the middle, and falling through the floor on the bottom, and the political system has refused to address this for 30 years. so we have reached a calamitous situation in this country, but the fact of the matter is nothing that was done at
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